WEBVTT 00:00.409 --> 00:02.759 Uh , thanks very much Uh , in 00:02.759 --> 00:04.926 seriousness , you know , that movie is 00:04.926 --> 00:07.148 about an unattributed missile that gets 00:07.148 --> 00:09.259 launched into North America , so it's 00:09.259 --> 00:11.037 very topical for for what we're 00:11.037 --> 00:13.259 discussing here throughout the last few 00:13.259 --> 00:12.949 days and particularly with this panel . 00:13.600 --> 00:15.800 So I , I want , I want to get into the 00:15.800 --> 00:17.800 panelists here . They have a lot to 00:17.800 --> 00:19.920 provide and also then get into the 00:19.920 --> 00:23.520 questions and answer session . But what 00:23.520 --> 00:25.639 I for for context , when you think 00:25.639 --> 00:29.430 about the Indo Pecon theater . 62% of 00:29.430 --> 00:32.500 the globe's surface is within the ACO 00:32.500 --> 00:35.150 area of responsibility . And the 00:35.150 --> 00:37.372 threats that we have to contend with in 00:37.372 --> 00:39.317 this area of responsibility , they 00:39.317 --> 00:41.039 range from everywhere from the 00:41.039 --> 00:42.990 strategic and the tactical and the 00:42.990 --> 00:46.380 geographic span of these threats 00:47.509 --> 00:50.479 across the entire part of the AOR when 00:50.479 --> 00:53.750 you think about whether it's Korea , 00:54.150 --> 00:58.150 whether it's Japan , operations in 00:58.150 --> 01:01.689 the Philippines . System defending 01:01.689 --> 01:03.970 Hawaii all the way through to having to 01:03.970 --> 01:06.680 address threats that might start in the 01:06.680 --> 01:09.639 Indoon theater . Targeting the United 01:09.639 --> 01:12.660 States . In this panel here across all 01:12.660 --> 01:15.019 domains are the experts who allow us to 01:15.019 --> 01:17.139 think about this , talk about , talk 01:17.139 --> 01:19.306 about , uh , what their operations are 01:19.306 --> 01:22.379 and support uh defense of the IndoeO 01:22.379 --> 01:24.546 against all threats to include space . 01:24.546 --> 01:26.712 So without any further ado , I'm gonna 01:26.712 --> 01:30.500 turn it over to , uh , who's going to 01:30.500 --> 01:32.611 lead us off and then we're just gonna 01:32.611 --> 01:34.778 go down in the bill and the ma down to 01:34.778 --> 01:37.419 uh to so everybody's not to hold the . 01:39.230 --> 01:41.440 Thanks , Dan , good morning everyone . 01:42.269 --> 01:44.547 Good day , because I'm an Aussie aloha , 01:44.547 --> 01:46.790 because I'm from Hawaii and I lived in 01:46.790 --> 01:49.589 Alabama for 3 years , so how do you 01:49.589 --> 01:50.589 feel ? I'm . 01:53.629 --> 01:55.629 What what's an Aussie doing up here 01:55.629 --> 01:57.796 representing you the PACOM , um , with 01:57.796 --> 02:00.000 a number of , uh , coalition embedded 02:00.000 --> 02:01.959 into the various forces across the 02:01.959 --> 02:04.400 island and PACOM , it's my privilege to 02:04.400 --> 02:06.344 be the Australian deputy commander 02:06.344 --> 02:08.789 embedded into Packer . So what I will 02:08.789 --> 02:11.470 talk to today is not an Australian 02:11.839 --> 02:13.669 perspective , it is the PACO 02:13.669 --> 02:15.600 perspective . Um , I'm here 02:15.600 --> 02:17.656 representing General Schneider , the 02:17.656 --> 02:19.767 commander of the Pacific Air Forces , 02:19.767 --> 02:21.889 uh , and his many hats . He he's 02:21.889 --> 02:24.056 responsible for generating air power , 02:24.130 --> 02:26.309 force generating uh United States Air 02:26.309 --> 02:28.587 Force air power for the Inland Pacific . 02:28.587 --> 02:30.531 He's the Joint Force Air Component 02:30.531 --> 02:33.220 commander , uh , to Aparo , and 02:33.220 --> 02:35.610 importantly for this forum is the area 02:35.610 --> 02:37.888 air defense commander for Indo Pacific . 02:37.888 --> 02:40.649 So I'll be giving a perspective , um , 02:41.139 --> 02:43.139 representing him . It's a , it's an 02:43.139 --> 02:45.361 absolute privilege . Uh , being part of 02:45.361 --> 02:47.570 that organization , uh , and doing 02:47.570 --> 02:49.770 something so consequential , and it's 02:49.770 --> 02:53.740 consequential because , Indoacom has a 02:53.740 --> 02:56.020 number of acute challenges , uh , and 02:56.020 --> 02:58.242 it's challenges not just for Indoacom , 02:58.242 --> 03:00.660 but it , it's a theater that I think 03:00.660 --> 03:02.660 for our generation is the most 03:02.660 --> 03:05.529 consequential one , across the world . 03:05.889 --> 03:07.889 There and there's lots happening in 03:07.889 --> 03:10.056 Europe , there's lots happening in the 03:10.056 --> 03:12.222 Middle East and around the world , but 03:12.222 --> 03:14.389 it is where great power competition is 03:14.389 --> 03:16.556 playing out . It is probably where the 03:16.556 --> 03:18.556 rules and norms and and and how our 03:18.556 --> 03:22.550 societies evolve into the future . Will 03:22.550 --> 03:25.229 be set based on the actions that we 03:25.229 --> 03:27.340 take today and over the next decade . 03:28.619 --> 03:32.440 and the challenges That we face In 03:32.449 --> 03:34.782 this consequential theater are are many , 03:35.130 --> 03:37.352 there are a number of actors , Russia , 03:37.669 --> 03:40.360 Whilst engaged uh heavily in its 03:40.360 --> 03:43.759 immoral and illegal campaign in Ukraine , 03:44.039 --> 03:46.206 is still very active within our fear . 03:46.750 --> 03:48.417 from an area where the case . 03:48.990 --> 03:51.899 Perspective if they test and probe . 03:52.750 --> 03:55.419 Air defense networks are routinely , 03:55.679 --> 03:58.039 long range aviation , uh , they are 03:58.039 --> 04:01.669 active . The Alaska 04:01.669 --> 04:05.020 region , which impacts Indo-AO through 04:05.020 --> 04:08.350 the Sea of Japan , and testing both 04:08.350 --> 04:12.149 Japanese and Republic of Korea , A 04:12.149 --> 04:15.259 is . All the time . And they have 04:15.259 --> 04:17.720 annexus with the North Koreans . The 04:17.720 --> 04:19.887 North Koreans are incredibly active as 04:19.887 --> 04:22.053 they're building quite a sophisticated 04:22.053 --> 04:25.279 missile deck um with help now from the 04:25.279 --> 04:28.299 Russians . Brings a great deal of 04:28.299 --> 04:31.619 concern , uh , and building a , a , an 04:31.619 --> 04:34.619 inventory that is destabilizing not 04:34.619 --> 04:36.779 just to the peninsula , but to the 04:36.779 --> 04:40.369 region writ large . And then there's 04:40.369 --> 04:44.200 China . China has been over the last 04:44.200 --> 04:46.311 number of decades , as you all know , 04:46.311 --> 04:50.290 modernized . At pace an incredible 04:50.290 --> 04:53.940 place . Uh , their missile 04:53.940 --> 04:56.051 capability and their air capability . 04:56.329 --> 04:59.679 Has substantially grow . To 05:00.500 --> 05:03.339 What was nowhere near a near peer 05:03.339 --> 05:06.420 competitor to now a peer , a true peer 05:06.420 --> 05:08.779 competitor for not just the United 05:08.779 --> 05:11.130 States , but a coalition writ large 05:11.619 --> 05:13.508 within the area . The numbers and 05:13.508 --> 05:16.160 capability that they have grown to and 05:16.160 --> 05:18.160 the and the trend and pace at which 05:18.160 --> 05:20.579 they continue to grow is extraordinary . 05:21.489 --> 05:23.656 Uh , and that , we know that that will 05:23.656 --> 05:25.767 continue and , and for a country that 05:25.767 --> 05:27.767 has , has risen economically , um , 05:27.769 --> 05:31.239 that is to have been expected . But 05:31.239 --> 05:33.295 from a Chinese , from an Indo Paycom 05:33.295 --> 05:35.517 perspective , what's most concerning is 05:35.517 --> 05:37.572 the lack of transparency around what 05:37.572 --> 05:39.295 that growth is , the offensive 05:39.295 --> 05:41.406 capabilities that they're producing . 05:41.406 --> 05:43.630 Um , is not coming with a good 05:43.630 --> 05:46.140 explanation as to the why . 05:48.549 --> 05:50.549 We're also seeing a country that is 05:50.549 --> 05:53.269 using that offensive capability with 05:53.269 --> 05:55.510 greater and greater confidence and more 05:55.510 --> 05:58.440 and more times with a set of aggression 05:58.709 --> 06:00.709 that is transgressing international 06:00.709 --> 06:03.869 rules and international norms that has 06:03.869 --> 06:06.230 benefited the region over the last 50 , 06:06.320 --> 06:09.730 60 , 70 years . Uh , and so that , that 06:09.730 --> 06:11.897 is a concerning threat , a threat that 06:11.897 --> 06:15.839 includes . And will test us At speed , 06:16.100 --> 06:18.350 the hypersonic uh capabilities that are 06:18.350 --> 06:20.309 being developed will reduce our 06:20.309 --> 06:22.989 decision making time uh as we look at 06:22.989 --> 06:25.859 that , uh , the deep magazine depth 06:25.859 --> 06:27.803 that they hold in their long range 06:27.803 --> 06:30.940 fires . Creates acute challenges for us 06:30.940 --> 06:33.630 in the Indo-Pacific and their ability . 06:34.390 --> 06:36.619 From decades ago , from having attack 06:36.619 --> 06:39.510 axes that numbered in the single digits 06:39.510 --> 06:43.029 to now 360 degree axis of attack , uh 06:43.029 --> 06:45.950 pretty much able to reach out anywhere 06:45.950 --> 06:49.359 across the Indo-Pacific , uh AOR . 06:50.600 --> 06:52.750 That creates significant challenge . 06:54.739 --> 06:56.628 From an Indo Paycom perspective . 06:57.739 --> 07:00.239 Admiral Paparo wants to preserve peace 07:00.239 --> 07:03.350 through the projection of strength . Uh , 07:03.380 --> 07:05.602 and that is a really important piece to 07:05.602 --> 07:08.600 do , we need to deter . Whoever the 07:08.600 --> 07:11.040 actor is , uh , aggression . 07:12.589 --> 07:15.320 Challenges Those international 07:15.320 --> 07:17.487 standards , those international laws , 07:17.487 --> 07:19.542 those international rules of norms . 07:19.709 --> 07:22.170 That has benefited everyone globally 07:22.170 --> 07:25.029 and within the region , um , but to 07:25.029 --> 07:26.760 project . Stra 07:28.880 --> 07:30.991 We need to ensure that not only do we 07:30.991 --> 07:32.991 have the offensive capability , the 07:32.991 --> 07:36.000 ability to swing that blow if needed . 07:37.519 --> 07:39.741 That gives an adversary pause , we need 07:39.741 --> 07:41.741 to make sure we do that without the 07:41.741 --> 07:45.239 glass jaw . Admiral Papara quite 07:45.239 --> 07:47.630 rightly says he wants to preserve . 07:49.239 --> 07:51.470 Secondly the legitimacy while having 07:51.470 --> 07:54.540 first mover of . So we may have to 07:54.540 --> 07:57.779 absorb a blow . We can't take a blow 07:57.779 --> 08:00.260 with a glass jaw and be able to swing 08:00.260 --> 08:03.049 one back . Uh , that will get the job 08:03.049 --> 08:05.059 done . So to be able to project 08:05.059 --> 08:07.730 strength , we need to ensure that we 08:07.730 --> 08:09.841 have those protection capabilities in 08:09.841 --> 08:13.119 place , uh , that tells an adversary , 08:13.329 --> 08:16.940 you cannot harm us . You cannot stop 08:16.940 --> 08:20.739 us from wielding the full night of a 08:20.739 --> 08:23.339 coalition to prevent you from achieving 08:23.339 --> 08:25.260 any aims should you choose to use 08:25.260 --> 08:27.089 military capability to do so . 08:29.570 --> 08:33.070 From A theater area 08:33.070 --> 08:36.439 defense . Perspective then , General 08:36.439 --> 08:39.008 Schneider has an incredibly important 08:39.008 --> 08:42.388 mission on behalf of Kuna . How does 08:42.388 --> 08:45.609 he ensure that he has the capabilities 08:45.609 --> 08:48.229 across the theater . That can protect 08:48.229 --> 08:51.510 the joint . In the joint force mission . 08:52.809 --> 08:55.450 To be able to project military power in 08:55.450 --> 08:58.340 the strength . There's a number of 08:58.340 --> 09:00.580 needs that General Schneider will have 09:00.580 --> 09:04.429 to be able to do that . We need 09:04.429 --> 09:08.309 integrated and layered . Joint defense 09:09.419 --> 09:11.641 It it's not an Air Force mission , it's 09:11.641 --> 09:13.752 not an army mission , it's not a navy 09:13.752 --> 09:15.975 mission , it's not a space mission . We 09:15.975 --> 09:18.086 need to be able to bring air , land , 09:18.086 --> 09:20.729 sea , and space sensors and effective 09:20.729 --> 09:22.507 and command and control systems 09:22.507 --> 09:24.673 together . Uh , and we need to be able 09:24.673 --> 09:27.549 to protect against those upper , middle , 09:27.590 --> 09:31.479 and lower tier threats . Any 09:31.479 --> 09:33.840 systems that roll out and form part of 09:33.840 --> 09:37.840 that integration . We need to 09:37.840 --> 09:41.320 do so in the contest . So we can't have 09:41.320 --> 09:44.280 a system that's so brittle . That an 09:44.280 --> 09:46.280 action from an adversary causes the 09:46.280 --> 09:48.113 whole protection architecture to 09:48.113 --> 09:51.500 collapse . We need resilience within 09:51.500 --> 09:53.667 all of the systems that are brought to 09:53.667 --> 09:56.330 bear to bring that air defense area air 09:56.330 --> 09:59.690 defense capability . Um , and it needs 09:59.690 --> 10:02.090 to have graceful degradation . We know 10:02.090 --> 10:04.034 there are elements that would come 10:04.034 --> 10:06.257 under attack . It needs an architecture 10:06.257 --> 10:08.489 such that , uh , we can continue to 10:08.489 --> 10:11.450 provide and and adjust capabilities to 10:11.450 --> 10:13.690 provide levels of protection to the 10:13.690 --> 10:17.390 joint . The the way Indo Paycom will 10:17.390 --> 10:19.260 operate across the theater . If 10:19.260 --> 10:21.380 deterrence fails and we do get to 10:21.380 --> 10:23.547 crisis and have to fight together as a 10:23.547 --> 10:25.713 joint force , we expect the tempo will 10:25.713 --> 10:28.780 be quick . We expect we will be 10:29.299 --> 10:31.521 required to make decisions quickly . We 10:31.521 --> 10:33.466 expect the joint force to maneuver 10:33.466 --> 10:35.960 quickly . Uh , any protection system 10:35.960 --> 10:38.010 that comes , any area defense 10:38.010 --> 10:40.070 architecture needs to be able to 10:40.070 --> 10:43.700 support . That maneuver . It needs to 10:43.700 --> 10:46.070 be agile . It needs to be able to shift . 10:46.929 --> 10:49.760 It cannot be systems that require 10:52.010 --> 10:55.530 Fleets of C-17s or large ships to move . 10:56.520 --> 10:58.909 In order to lay protection down as 10:58.909 --> 11:01.729 theater posture change . We may need to 11:01.729 --> 11:04.099 move and adjust uh incredibly quickly , 11:04.130 --> 11:06.241 and anything that we can do to moduli 11:06.241 --> 11:07.969 to increase the agility of the 11:07.969 --> 11:10.136 protection systems will be important . 11:10.530 --> 11:12.840 I , I talked about an integrated , uh , 11:12.859 --> 11:15.419 architecture that , that is incredibly 11:15.419 --> 11:18.000 important . It it needs to be a C2 11:18.000 --> 11:19.739 architecture that can command 11:19.739 --> 11:23.619 theater-wide . Centrally if required , 11:23.669 --> 11:26.700 but also through distributed joint 11:27.070 --> 11:29.909 multiple C2 nodes . Whether that's a 11:29.909 --> 11:32.590 sea tuna that sits in Guam or Japan or 11:32.590 --> 11:36.070 the Philippines or Australia . Or DAARC 11:36.070 --> 11:38.260 or anywhere within the theater and are 11:38.260 --> 11:40.500 connected to others when they can , but 11:40.500 --> 11:42.778 can operate independently if they must . 11:45.590 --> 11:48.049 And systems that come together and sit 11:48.049 --> 11:50.105 within that C2 architecture that are 11:50.105 --> 11:53.169 integrated . I cannot have the United 11:53.169 --> 11:55.225 States Air Force tactical operations 11:55.225 --> 11:57.729 center with a picture that is slightly 11:57.729 --> 12:00.510 different to armies integrated . Bail 12:00.510 --> 12:02.950 command system with a slightly 12:02.950 --> 12:05.117 different picture , which is different 12:05.117 --> 12:07.349 to Navy's Aegis command and control 12:07.349 --> 12:09.182 system with a slightly different 12:09.182 --> 12:11.071 picture , all identifying the one 12:11.071 --> 12:13.293 entity with slightly different tracks . 12:13.293 --> 12:15.293 That is an inefficient way of doing 12:15.293 --> 12:17.516 business , and ineffective way of doing 12:17.516 --> 12:19.738 business . We need all of those systems 12:19.738 --> 12:21.738 to integrate , uh , and provide the 12:21.738 --> 12:23.349 same decision making quality 12:23.349 --> 12:25.405 information at all of those nodes so 12:25.405 --> 12:28.559 that we can respond appropriately . And 12:28.559 --> 12:30.670 not just at the joint force , we need 12:30.670 --> 12:33.729 to do that across the coalition . If we 12:33.729 --> 12:36.659 fight for something that is right . We 12:36.659 --> 12:40.320 will never fight Uh , and as an 12:40.320 --> 12:42.830 Australian , I can tell you . Since 12:42.830 --> 12:44.997 World War One , shoulder to shoulder , 12:45.229 --> 12:47.173 Australians and the US have fought 12:47.173 --> 12:49.173 together , and that will be true in 12:49.173 --> 12:51.396 this theater and it will be true across 12:51.396 --> 12:53.396 a broad coalition , whether it's uh 12:53.396 --> 12:55.507 Japanese Self-defense Force , whether 12:55.507 --> 12:57.562 it's the Republic of Korea , whether 12:57.562 --> 12:59.562 it's Philippines , whether it's the 12:59.562 --> 13:01.785 broad range of allies and partners that 13:01.785 --> 13:03.896 will come together who are interested 13:03.896 --> 13:06.007 in upholding civility in the region , 13:06.007 --> 13:08.179 who are interested in protecting those 13:08.190 --> 13:10.789 international rules and norms . Um , we 13:10.789 --> 13:12.456 need to be able to bring that 13:12.456 --> 13:14.678 collective mind to the fart because the 13:14.678 --> 13:18.640 challenge is large . And those 13:18.640 --> 13:20.919 countries will bring capabilities that 13:20.919 --> 13:24.090 we will need . We cannot afford to have 13:24.090 --> 13:26.257 them federated , we need to bring them 13:26.257 --> 13:28.312 into the system , uh , and have them 13:28.312 --> 13:31.659 integrated with . The senses Their 13:31.659 --> 13:33.826 effect is in their command and control 13:33.826 --> 13:36.380 of decision making , uh , sense , and 13:36.380 --> 13:38.491 the time of crisis is not the time to 13:38.491 --> 13:40.950 do that . We need to be doing that now , 13:41.090 --> 13:43.146 we need to ensure that the technical 13:43.146 --> 13:44.979 standards are there , we have as 13:44.979 --> 13:46.979 broadly an open system architecture 13:46.979 --> 13:49.460 across systems as we possibly can that 13:49.460 --> 13:53.309 allow seamless data sharing . And 13:53.309 --> 13:55.309 interoperability , and I think that 13:55.309 --> 13:58.169 technical standards . Close , if not 13:58.169 --> 14:00.336 already there . I , I'm less concerned 14:00.336 --> 14:02.669 about the technical means to share data . 14:03.409 --> 14:05.631 As I am the policy barriers that we put 14:05.631 --> 14:08.099 in place . And its policy barriers 14:08.099 --> 14:11.000 across both governments . role 14:11.719 --> 14:15.369 And industries . Uh , governments 14:15.510 --> 14:17.510 need to ensure that we've got these 14:17.510 --> 14:19.510 sharing agreements in place . We've 14:19.510 --> 14:22.099 done the , the hard work to understand 14:22.099 --> 14:26.080 the risks . And we allow that 14:26.080 --> 14:28.136 data sharing to occur because of the 14:28.136 --> 14:30.440 benefits that it will bring . From an 14:30.440 --> 14:32.329 industry perspective , we need to 14:32.329 --> 14:34.440 ensure that we don't hide behind IP , 14:35.280 --> 14:37.336 uh , intellectual property that that 14:37.336 --> 14:39.558 prevents us from doing the sharing work 14:39.558 --> 14:41.400 that might be necessary from one 14:41.400 --> 14:43.919 country's , uh , collection of 14:43.919 --> 14:46.530 capability to another's that may cross 14:46.530 --> 14:49.270 industry boundaries . So that would be 14:49.270 --> 14:52.289 important . From a theater area air 14:52.289 --> 14:54.511 defense commander perspective , we need 14:54.511 --> 14:56.733 whatever is brought to be sustainable . 14:56.733 --> 14:59.409 We're facing such a a deep magazine 14:59.409 --> 15:01.969 death from a number of potential 15:01.969 --> 15:04.820 adversaries in the theater . Uh , that 15:04.820 --> 15:06.987 could mean that we need to fight for a 15:06.987 --> 15:09.460 considerable period of time against an 15:09.460 --> 15:11.960 adversary for long age children . We 15:11.960 --> 15:14.919 need effectives uh and sensors that can 15:14.919 --> 15:16.919 be quickly replaced and sustained . 15:17.789 --> 15:20.229 That that are easy to use , that 15:20.229 --> 15:23.559 provides a counter magazine de . Uh , 15:23.650 --> 15:25.849 that will be required and , and does 15:25.849 --> 15:28.929 not place an unnecessary burden on our 15:28.929 --> 15:31.289 supply chain because we know that our 15:31.289 --> 15:33.650 logistics across the Indo-Pacific 15:33.650 --> 15:37.349 Theater will be contested . Each 15:37.349 --> 15:39.289 theater has its own . 15:40.890 --> 15:44.770 Challenges From an Indo-Pacific the 15:44.770 --> 15:47.330 perspective , the time and distance 15:47.330 --> 15:49.650 that we will have to operate across the 15:49.650 --> 15:52.700 wide expanses of of water that we will 15:52.700 --> 15:55.130 need to operate across , bring those 15:55.130 --> 15:56.963 challenges , particularly in the 15:56.963 --> 16:00.349 logistics space . We may not have full 16:00.349 --> 16:03.619 maritime domain superiority , full air 16:03.619 --> 16:05.730 superiority , so anything that we can 16:05.730 --> 16:07.841 do to alleviate the supply chain that 16:07.841 --> 16:09.730 needs to operate in those areas . 16:13.369 --> 16:16.419 Those things aren't easy . To be able 16:16.419 --> 16:19.590 to bring together . Allied partner . 16:20.869 --> 16:23.789 Systems in an integrated fashion that 16:23.789 --> 16:26.190 can create a common picture with a 16:26.190 --> 16:28.940 common decision-making set of tools 16:29.309 --> 16:32.270 that allow coherent and synchronized 16:32.270 --> 16:34.659 decisions across the joint force for 16:34.659 --> 16:37.489 theater air , uh , and missile defense . 16:38.210 --> 16:40.377 It will be difficult work to do and it 16:40.377 --> 16:43.929 is difficult . but we're 16:43.929 --> 16:46.989 making progress . We will continue to , 16:47.000 --> 16:48.611 to push for that joint force 16:48.611 --> 16:50.722 architecture , an architecture that's 16:50.722 --> 16:52.944 integrated by design . Now we're seeing 16:52.944 --> 16:55.111 that as we pull out , and , and I know 16:55.111 --> 16:57.278 Bill will talk a little bit more about 16:57.278 --> 16:59.278 the Guam defensive system . I think 16:59.278 --> 17:01.389 that's showcasing a way ahead for the 17:01.389 --> 17:03.167 joint force . Um , we're seeing 17:03.167 --> 17:05.389 relationship building across allies and 17:05.389 --> 17:07.500 partners in the region and agreements 17:07.500 --> 17:09.556 being established that bring in that 17:09.556 --> 17:11.920 coalition force . Uh , we're seeing 17:11.920 --> 17:14.119 exercises that are running . Pacific 17:14.119 --> 17:17.199 Air Force has has just completed . Uh 17:19.069 --> 17:21.390 Re full pack exercise which included a 17:21.390 --> 17:25.109 large uh area defense component to that . 17:25.310 --> 17:27.032 We're learning a great deal of 17:27.032 --> 17:28.866 exercises as we're bringing in . 17:29.359 --> 17:31.303 Capabilities from across the joint 17:31.303 --> 17:33.470 force , we need to continue those reps 17:33.470 --> 17:35.248 and sets , and we need to bring 17:35.248 --> 17:37.303 industry to those as well so you can 17:37.303 --> 17:39.959 better understand our challenges , and 17:39.959 --> 17:43.439 you can better help us connect those 17:43.439 --> 17:45.495 key pieces of equipment that will be 17:45.495 --> 17:48.479 important to the fire . So here in the 17:48.479 --> 17:51.310 Pacific , We were kind of at the nexus 17:51.310 --> 17:53.510 of great power competition and where I 17:53.510 --> 17:56.069 said those rules and challenges , uh . 17:56.849 --> 17:58.793 The rules and norms are challenged 17:58.793 --> 18:02.660 every day . We need to continue to 18:02.660 --> 18:04.780 do that work at pace , we need to 18:04.780 --> 18:07.619 accelerate what we can that provides 18:07.619 --> 18:10.540 that protective layer . That reduces 18:10.540 --> 18:12.979 the vulnerability of the jaw . And 18:12.979 --> 18:15.609 tells an adversary you cannot hurt us 18:15.959 --> 18:18.300 enough to prevent us from stopping you . 18:19.500 --> 18:21.556 From achieving any aims that you may 18:21.556 --> 18:25.040 have through illegitimate . And illegal 18:26.739 --> 18:27.420 Military 18:30.640 --> 18:32.418 Willing to explore all of those 18:32.418 --> 18:34.529 questions that you might have when we 18:34.529 --> 18:36.584 get to there , but I'd , I'd like to 18:36.584 --> 18:38.584 then pass to the next member of the 18:38.584 --> 18:40.949 panel , we can perhaps talk a few more , 18:41.319 --> 18:43.486 um , and provide you a little bit more 18:43.486 --> 18:44.486 detail on what . 18:54.719 --> 18:57.520 So aloha Half a day 18:58.650 --> 19:02.609 Ohiosamos , good day . And all 19:02.609 --> 19:04.776 the other different languages that are 19:04.776 --> 19:07.290 spoken in the Pacific , uh , on behalf 19:07.290 --> 19:09.623 of the Indo-AO team , you know , thanks , 19:09.623 --> 19:11.846 thanks for having us up here , uh , and 19:11.846 --> 19:14.130 allow us to , to talk about not only 19:14.130 --> 19:16.800 what we live on a daily basis , um , 19:16.849 --> 19:18.682 but the very , and , and as Vice 19:18.682 --> 19:20.849 Marshall Newman pointed out , the very 19:20.849 --> 19:22.849 complicated environment , uh , that 19:22.849 --> 19:24.849 which we operate in the competition 19:24.849 --> 19:27.071 phase and will certainly , uh , operate 19:27.071 --> 19:29.349 in , in conflict when , when that time , 19:29.349 --> 19:32.010 if and when it comes . Uh , so , you 19:32.010 --> 19:33.843 know , first off , to put in the 19:33.843 --> 19:35.843 context and , and , you know , it's 19:35.843 --> 19:38.066 always hard to follow the Austin , um , 19:38.349 --> 19:40.630 but to , to kind of put in context , 19:40.709 --> 19:43.069 you know , what does a AAM DC commander 19:43.069 --> 19:45.236 do in , do in the Pacific , and I know 19:45.236 --> 19:47.458 we , we , we have some , uh , Seragon 6 19:47.458 --> 19:50.239 emeritus , uh , among us today . Um , 19:50.630 --> 19:52.630 so , so traditionally we've , we've 19:52.630 --> 19:55.589 really worn three hats . One as , you 19:55.589 --> 19:57.533 know , the senior Army Air defense 19:57.533 --> 20:00.699 commander , uh , for the theater . Uh , 20:01.000 --> 20:03.222 we also have a hat that we wear , which 20:03.222 --> 20:05.209 is the theater Air Missile Defense 20:05.209 --> 20:07.160 coordinator , uh , for the land 20:07.160 --> 20:09.160 component , so to the juicer PA 20:09.160 --> 20:11.839 commander , uh , being his integrated 20:11.839 --> 20:14.119 air missile defense , uh , advisor and 20:14.119 --> 20:16.930 planner . And then we have a very 20:16.930 --> 20:19.810 important role that we play um as the 20:19.810 --> 20:23.189 deputy area Air Defense commander , uh , 20:23.199 --> 20:26.170 to the , to the air component commander 20:26.449 --> 20:28.880 or the , or the area air defense 20:28.880 --> 20:31.310 commander , uh , and that , that . 20:33.099 --> 20:35.939 That direct support relationship that , 20:36.020 --> 20:38.187 that we have there . We spend a lot of 20:38.187 --> 20:40.829 time in culturing because that . 20:42.010 --> 20:44.640 Maintains the authorities for the 20:44.640 --> 20:46.696 integrated air missile defense fight 20:46.696 --> 20:48.862 that we would execute in the Pacific . 20:49.689 --> 20:51.745 Now that's what , you know , General 20:51.745 --> 20:53.745 Carver , General , General Gibson , 20:53.910 --> 20:55.910 they , they , they wore those three 20:55.910 --> 20:58.077 hats as , as emeritus . Well , we , we 20:58.077 --> 21:00.890 now have a new hat . As the senior Army 21:00.890 --> 21:03.310 Element commander Wong , uh , newly 21:03.310 --> 21:05.366 established within the , uh , within 21:05.366 --> 21:07.421 the course of the last month , and , 21:07.421 --> 21:09.670 and obviously that ties directly to You 21:09.670 --> 21:11.781 know , the army's contribution to the 21:11.781 --> 21:13.948 efforts that we have within the uh the 21:13.948 --> 21:17.420 Guam defense system . So as , as Vice 21:17.420 --> 21:20.750 Marshall Newman laid out , um , you 21:20.750 --> 21:22.917 know , there are several things that , 21:22.917 --> 21:24.972 that Joel Schneider , uh , and the , 21:24.972 --> 21:27.589 and the PACA team , uh , are looking at 21:27.589 --> 21:30.589 within that very , uh , complex 21:30.589 --> 21:32.589 environment that we have within the 21:32.589 --> 21:35.229 Indo Paycom and being able to . 21:37.109 --> 21:40.229 Enhance our ability to operate within 21:40.229 --> 21:43.589 that very time-sensitive fight that we 21:43.589 --> 21:46.030 will have once we transition , you know , 21:46.189 --> 21:48.390 from , from competition to conflict . 21:49.010 --> 21:52.599 And , and that decentralized control 21:52.859 --> 21:54.810 within that space is going to be 21:54.810 --> 21:58.339 critical when seconds matter . To 21:58.339 --> 22:01.069 have authorities pushed down to the 22:01.069 --> 22:04.709 right point in the fight so that we can 22:04.709 --> 22:07.699 effectively . Um , engage and defeat 22:07.699 --> 22:10.560 the threats that are presented to us . 22:11.140 --> 22:13.699 But in order to get to that point , 22:14.510 --> 22:16.729 Right ? That commander has to have a 22:16.729 --> 22:19.599 level of confidence in the capabilities 22:19.949 --> 22:22.650 uh that , that he can bring to bear 22:22.650 --> 22:26.229 against the potential adversary . And I 22:26.229 --> 22:28.589 think , you know , with where we have 22:28.589 --> 22:31.390 come over the last few years , I , I , 22:31.510 --> 22:34.189 I think the commander does have the 22:34.189 --> 22:36.739 confidence between what we've executed 22:37.069 --> 22:39.479 in terms of Project convergence 22:39.479 --> 22:42.949 Capstone 4 , Capstone 5 , those AFC 22:42.949 --> 22:45.369 efforts , Operation Slingstone , uh , 22:45.390 --> 22:48.270 which we , we executed uh this past 22:48.270 --> 22:51.939 December , where we are bringing a 22:51.939 --> 22:55.880 joint . Command and control systems 22:55.880 --> 22:58.680 together to be able to execute that 22:58.680 --> 23:01.800 mission . in the defense of Guam . 23:03.180 --> 23:06.060 That level of confidence , uh , in , in 23:06.060 --> 23:08.500 being able to bring the improvements 23:08.500 --> 23:10.699 that that PO Mr . Space and General 23:10.699 --> 23:12.866 Lozano and team have brought forward , 23:12.939 --> 23:15.380 uh , as , as we have some of the early 23:15.380 --> 23:18.790 prototypes for IBCS and theater . Uh , 23:18.869 --> 23:20.869 the , the , the improvements that's 23:20.869 --> 23:23.660 been made , uh , with the , uh , the , 23:23.750 --> 23:25.972 the top light system that the Air Force 23:25.972 --> 23:28.459 uses and the ability to integrate , uh , 23:28.469 --> 23:30.525 those capabilities through the joint 23:30.525 --> 23:32.580 track management capability bridge , 23:32.589 --> 23:34.589 which , which again , we've , we've 23:34.589 --> 23:37.069 executed in both experimentation and 23:37.069 --> 23:40.260 through , through exercises , um , both , 23:40.349 --> 23:42.571 both back here in the States and in the 23:42.571 --> 23:46.089 Pacific . That is allowing us to 23:46.089 --> 23:49.359 more effectively . Deconflict the 23:49.359 --> 23:52.150 airspace and know what's out there uh 23:52.150 --> 23:54.670 through . Uh , our , our air battle 23:54.670 --> 23:58.109 managers , as well as distribute fires 23:58.310 --> 24:01.479 within that space with our air defense 24:01.479 --> 24:04.780 artillery fire control officers . Um , 24:05.079 --> 24:08.750 as You know , as we are moving forward 24:08.750 --> 24:11.780 into the future , you know , we are , 24:12.199 --> 24:15.910 we now have US 24:16.140 --> 24:18.719 personnel attending . Air defense 24:18.719 --> 24:21.310 artillery fire control , also force in 24:21.310 --> 24:24.030 Australia . Uh , so , so a lot of these , 24:24.160 --> 24:26.049 you know , we talked from a joint 24:26.049 --> 24:28.104 perspective , we can also talk to it 24:28.104 --> 24:30.104 from a combined perspective and the 24:30.104 --> 24:32.709 ability , uh , to , to do what we just 24:32.709 --> 24:35.400 did in Taman Savior 25 where we 24:35.400 --> 24:39.099 established . Uh , a , a combined , 24:39.420 --> 24:42.420 uh , IED task force headquarters at 24:42.420 --> 24:46.060 RAFF Darwin and we executed that 24:46.060 --> 24:48.859 deconfliction , uh , and distribution 24:48.859 --> 24:52.530 of fires from using both 24:52.530 --> 24:55.500 US and Australian uh fire control 24:55.500 --> 24:56.890 officers to do that . 24:58.989 --> 25:02.930 Begins to More and more level 25:02.930 --> 25:05.619 of confidence to be able to do this and , 25:05.770 --> 25:09.290 and , and delegate authorities down uh 25:09.339 --> 25:11.672 from , from the commander's perspective . 25:12.209 --> 25:15.359 Um , You know , we , we have the 25:15.359 --> 25:18.109 ability now through technology , uh , 25:18.119 --> 25:20.341 with , with our , uh , integrated power 25:20.341 --> 25:23.459 command system , uh , to be able to get 25:23.459 --> 25:26.619 to , you know , the concept and , and 25:26.619 --> 25:28.563 sort of I know how long we've been 25:28.563 --> 25:30.619 talking about this , that any sensor 25:30.619 --> 25:32.563 best shooter , but , but I like to 25:32.563 --> 25:34.619 frame it in terms of any sensor most 25:34.619 --> 25:37.810 efficient and effective . Because now 25:37.810 --> 25:39.977 we are , we are taking a look at the , 25:39.977 --> 25:42.410 the magazine , uh , problem that Vice 25:42.410 --> 25:45.369 Marshal Newman talked about in ensuring 25:45.369 --> 25:48.410 that we are distributing fires in the 25:48.410 --> 25:51.680 most efficient and effective way , uh , 25:51.689 --> 25:53.900 that we possibly can to be able to 25:54.459 --> 25:57.449 account for a problem where quantity 25:57.449 --> 26:01.199 has a quality all its time . Um , you 26:01.199 --> 26:03.079 know , we are , we have seen the 26:03.079 --> 26:05.301 improvements , uh , with , with the air 26:05.301 --> 26:07.719 val manager's capability , um , to , to 26:07.719 --> 26:10.160 execute that bike within the , within 26:10.160 --> 26:12.382 the top wise system , and , and again , 26:12.439 --> 26:14.495 all these systems , you know , are , 26:14.495 --> 26:17.280 are continuing . to improve over time . 26:17.969 --> 26:19.747 Uh , the joint track management 26:19.747 --> 26:21.969 capability bridge , uh , from a , from 26:21.969 --> 26:24.770 a joint perspective , uh , has , has 26:24.770 --> 26:27.079 really started to scratch the surface 26:27.449 --> 26:31.250 of , of being able to You know , to 26:31.250 --> 26:34.650 take another services sensor data . 26:36.829 --> 26:40.430 And use that sensor data across another 26:40.430 --> 26:42.270 services factor . 26:44.089 --> 26:46.229 Significant because we've now broken 26:46.229 --> 26:48.709 that traditional sensor shooter 26:48.709 --> 26:51.589 paradigm from a joint perspective . Now 26:51.589 --> 26:53.756 you , you've still got some ways to go 26:53.756 --> 26:55.756 and I know Jo Rash and his team are 26:55.756 --> 26:57.949 working hard on the , the , uh , the 26:57.949 --> 27:00.300 Joint Integrate Bat Manager jiggle 27:00.300 --> 27:02.660 system . Uh , we're , we're still doing 27:02.660 --> 27:06.109 that . of fires , uh , in a , in a 27:06.109 --> 27:08.349 swivel chair type mentality , but to 27:08.349 --> 27:12.060 have a , a means from a joint and 27:12.239 --> 27:15.520 perspective . Have 27:15.520 --> 27:19.239 AI-driven decision aids that would 27:19.239 --> 27:22.920 allow us to ensure that we are , um , 27:23.359 --> 27:26.890 one , not getting under engagement , 2 , 27:27.119 --> 27:29.829 not getting over-engagement , which now 27:29.829 --> 27:33.030 affects that magazine depth issue , uh , 27:33.040 --> 27:35.000 but having that , that capability 27:35.000 --> 27:38.520 present to help those human beings 27:38.880 --> 27:42.520 um work within what is now a , a 27:42.520 --> 27:45.800 cognitive convolution . Environment and 27:45.800 --> 27:47.800 assist them in being able to ensure 27:47.800 --> 27:50.150 that we don't have over or under 27:50.150 --> 27:52.790 engagements on any any specific threats . 27:52.800 --> 27:54.967 But at the end of the day , you know , 27:54.967 --> 27:56.856 it's not perfect yet , but we can 27:56.856 --> 27:58.920 clearly see where we are on a glide 27:58.920 --> 28:01.031 path to getting to where we know that 28:01.031 --> 28:04.780 we need . Um , you know , right 28:04.780 --> 28:07.020 now , I , I would argue , and again , 28:07.189 --> 28:09.411 this is Bill Parker's opinion , so this 28:09.411 --> 28:11.411 is $5 to buy you a cup of coffee at 28:11.411 --> 28:13.800 Starbucks , but I believe we are now in 28:13.800 --> 28:16.369 the most significant era of AMD 28:16.369 --> 28:19.949 modernization in history . Given , you 28:19.949 --> 28:22.116 know , all those systems , uh , that , 28:22.116 --> 28:24.449 that , that I've just talked about , uh , 28:24.449 --> 28:27.829 given , uh , again PO miss space work 28:27.829 --> 28:31.000 with the uh . Lower tier air missile 28:31.000 --> 28:33.989 defense sensor , uh , which we now have 28:33.989 --> 28:36.829 two of , uh , 2 prototypes that are 28:36.829 --> 28:39.051 currently within our theater that we're 28:39.051 --> 28:41.162 gonna kick the tires on . We're gonna 28:41.162 --> 28:43.329 do some learning . We're gonna see how 28:43.329 --> 28:45.273 it performs , and we're gonna help 28:45.273 --> 28:47.630 influence , you know , continual . 28:48.630 --> 28:51.709 Improvements to that system uh by just 28:51.709 --> 28:53.709 having it in our hands and it's not 28:53.709 --> 28:55.765 only the material improvements , but 28:55.765 --> 28:57.876 it's also helping inform Glenn Hankey 28:57.876 --> 29:00.859 and his team back at Fort Sill , uh , 29:00.869 --> 29:02.536 along the lines of doctrine , 29:02.750 --> 29:04.583 organization , training , leader 29:04.583 --> 29:07.800 development , uh , that we . To focus 29:07.800 --> 29:10.800 on in order to not only have this 29:10.800 --> 29:13.022 capability just for Guam , just for the 29:13.022 --> 29:15.520 Pacific , but have it where we can 29:15.520 --> 29:18.439 export that capability more effectively 29:18.439 --> 29:22.400 uh across other views . Uh , so we very 29:22.400 --> 29:24.511 much look forward to being able to do 29:24.511 --> 29:26.930 that . Uh , we , we're also , uh , 29:26.939 --> 29:29.106 aligned up as part of the Chief's plan 29:29.106 --> 29:31.272 for acceleration , much like our LTA's 29:31.272 --> 29:33.328 radar to , to receive the capability 29:33.328 --> 29:35.550 very soon . Uh , and a matter of fact , 29:35.550 --> 29:37.495 I believe it's on a boat right now 29:37.495 --> 29:40.130 chugging our way . Uh , looking forward 29:40.130 --> 29:43.540 to . Taking these new types of 29:43.540 --> 29:47.390 capabilities . Put them in the hands 29:47.390 --> 29:51.150 of soldiers which were aligns 29:51.150 --> 29:54.989 perfectly with where Jo George wants 29:54.989 --> 29:57.949 to go in terms of accelerating 29:57.949 --> 30:00.282 capability , transformation and contact , 30:00.310 --> 30:04.260 those , those types of concepts . And 30:04.260 --> 30:06.260 seeing how we can take these new 30:06.260 --> 30:08.316 technologies and fight differently , 30:08.316 --> 30:10.316 much like we're doing with the Guam 30:10.316 --> 30:12.229 defense system . Um , 30:14.410 --> 30:17.569 Because if we took these new systems 30:17.569 --> 30:19.791 and fought them in the same traditional 30:19.791 --> 30:23.020 ways that we have traditionally fought 30:23.160 --> 30:26.630 hatred in the past . The shame on 30:27.939 --> 30:31.479 We have to look at how we can gain 30:31.479 --> 30:33.650 effectiveness and efficiencies in 30:35.369 --> 30:38.810 New technologies and , and I see where 30:38.810 --> 30:41.589 we are at within the Pacific and in 30:41.589 --> 30:44.270 being the , the foundation of learning 30:44.270 --> 30:46.603 how we can do that . And matter of fact , 30:46.603 --> 30:48.714 uh , you know , we will learn uh from 30:48.714 --> 30:51.510 the Guam defense system . Learn from 30:51.510 --> 30:54.239 thirty-fifth ADA's use of being able to 30:54.239 --> 30:57.199 composite if , uh , and patriot 30:57.199 --> 30:59.310 capability together to , to further 30:59.310 --> 31:02.520 enhance what we can defend from an IMD 31:02.520 --> 31:06.189 perspective , um , and , and , you know , 31:06.479 --> 31:08.630 again , looking to be able to export 31:08.630 --> 31:10.910 what we learn across the course to make 31:10.910 --> 31:14.800 us all better as these capabilities 31:14.800 --> 31:17.280 proliferate uh throughout the army . 31:20.219 --> 31:24.030 So Vice Marshal Leman talked about , 31:24.130 --> 31:26.241 you know , that , that's kind of from 31:26.241 --> 31:28.408 an Army joint perspective but from a , 31:28.408 --> 31:31.239 a , a combined perspective with our 31:31.239 --> 31:33.520 allies and with our , our partners . I , 31:33.599 --> 31:36.839 I , he 100% hit the , hit the nail on 31:36.839 --> 31:40.689 that . The data is 31:40.689 --> 31:44.400 super important . The data is really 31:44.400 --> 31:47.109 the primacy of what will enable the 31:47.109 --> 31:50.339 fight within this very complex 31:50.670 --> 31:54.030 um environment where we have tyranny of 31:54.030 --> 31:56.510 distance , where we have , uh , you 31:56.510 --> 32:00.430 know , the potential to have actors uh 32:00.430 --> 32:04.150 within our , within our AOR . But being 32:04.150 --> 32:07.550 able to share that data because we know 32:07.550 --> 32:11.089 that we haven't fall . Really long time 32:11.089 --> 32:14.060 and that will not change . And it will 32:14.060 --> 32:17.329 take us coming together uh when we 32:18.479 --> 32:22.069 cross that line between competition and 32:22.069 --> 32:24.829 conflict , to be successful and to be 32:24.829 --> 32:26.662 able to enable the joint and the 32:26.662 --> 32:30.050 combined force to execute . That 32:30.050 --> 32:32.290 mission for the combatant commander . 32:33.229 --> 32:36.640 But , but overcoming these hurdles are 32:36.640 --> 32:38.696 going to be critical and , and these 32:38.696 --> 32:41.029 are hurting , these are not new hurdles . 32:41.770 --> 32:44.430 We've been talking about these . Years , 32:44.709 --> 32:47.390 whether it be policy , whether it be IP . 32:48.410 --> 32:52.219 Whether it be classification . That we 32:52.219 --> 32:55.260 have to overcome because that data is 32:55.260 --> 32:58.739 going to get us to where we need to be 32:58.739 --> 33:01.859 to be effective and be able to win that 33:01.859 --> 33:04.420 next fight . Um , so with that I've 33:04.420 --> 33:06.753 been talking for a really long time and , 33:06.753 --> 33:08.753 and so I'll go ahead and pass it to 33:08.753 --> 33:10.976 whoever is there . Hey , thanks , Joe . 33:16.520 --> 33:18.969 Mike , there we go . Good morning , 33:19.150 --> 33:21.790 everyone . Uh , I'll echo the comments 33:21.790 --> 33:24.012 of my fellow panelists . It's really an 33:24.012 --> 33:26.229 honor to be here , 2nd year in a row . 33:27.060 --> 33:30.550 The symposium , uh , it's a pleasure to 33:30.550 --> 33:33.579 be here from Hawaii . Couldn't wait to 33:33.579 --> 33:35.246 get away from those islands . 33:38.300 --> 33:40.390 It's a really phenomenal to be to be 33:40.390 --> 33:43.199 out here in the conversations . Really 33:43.199 --> 33:45.959 great , whether it's here in the the 33:45.959 --> 33:48.319 concert hall or out in the hallways . 33:49.219 --> 33:51.441 Seeing talking to many of you , I think 33:51.441 --> 33:53.552 the right conversations are happening 33:53.552 --> 33:56.869 at the right time . I'm here partially , 33:56.920 --> 33:58.920 uh , well , not partially , but I'm 33:58.920 --> 34:00.976 fully representing my boss , the new 34:00.976 --> 34:02.809 commander of Space Forces in the 34:02.809 --> 34:05.680 Pacific , Brigaer General Brianucho 34:05.680 --> 34:08.469 Deiro . Yeah , we , we come up with the 34:08.469 --> 34:12.129 best call signs in the space . Uh , 34:12.429 --> 34:15.080 he is the theater Joint Space Force 34:15.080 --> 34:17.780 component . And in that , you know , 34:18.060 --> 34:20.171 very much takes seriously the , the , 34:20.171 --> 34:22.530 the coordination and , and command role 34:22.530 --> 34:25.399 that he has . Space Force is in the 34:25.399 --> 34:27.510 Pacific , for those of you that don't 34:27.510 --> 34:29.830 know , we're only 2.5 years old . We're 34:29.830 --> 34:31.941 teething , I suppose , is where we're 34:31.941 --> 34:34.108 at . I don't , I don't have any kids , 34:34.108 --> 34:36.163 but I imagine that you guys do , you 34:36.163 --> 34:38.441 know , what the terrible twos are like . 34:38.441 --> 34:41.399 Uh , we're growing rapidly from 1.5 or 34:41.399 --> 34:43.520 2.5 years ago , give or take , we had 34:43.520 --> 34:46.919 about 20 folks , now 160 . 34:47.729 --> 34:50.010 Which is great . It's very , very big 34:50.010 --> 34:52.177 for us , very small in relation to the 34:52.177 --> 34:54.649 other components in Indo-AO . I think 34:54.649 --> 34:56.816 Pat Fleet likes to talk about how they 34:56.816 --> 35:00.590 have 135,000 sailors across , you know , 35:00.649 --> 35:03.169 hundreds of vessels . I don't , I think 35:03.169 --> 35:05.280 we might be at the point now where we 35:05.280 --> 35:07.530 could put one guardian on each navy 35:07.530 --> 35:09.929 vessel in the theater , if we chose to 35:09.929 --> 35:11.610 do so . Our mission is pretty 35:11.610 --> 35:14.639 straightforward . It's essential . We 35:14.639 --> 35:16.760 plan , coordinate and deliver space 35:16.760 --> 35:19.969 capability . That enhance the full 35:19.969 --> 35:22.199 range of military operations at the 35:22.199 --> 35:26.110 behest of the Indope commander . Um , 35:26.629 --> 35:29.629 I think key is something that we 35:29.629 --> 35:31.851 understand here , but I , I wouldn't be 35:31.851 --> 35:33.907 a good guardian if I didn't bring up 35:33.907 --> 35:35.629 that space is no longer just a 35:35.629 --> 35:37.740 supporting a backdrop to what we do , 35:37.740 --> 35:40.189 whether it's in , you know , Acom or 35:40.189 --> 35:43.370 elsewhere . It's a vital war fighting 35:43.370 --> 35:47.169 domain that underpins every 35:47.169 --> 35:50.330 aspect of operations across the 35:50.330 --> 35:53.270 military spectrum . Specifically , I 35:53.270 --> 35:55.437 think sometimes when we really look at 35:55.437 --> 35:57.603 it , it's enabling the long-range kill 35:57.603 --> 35:59.714 chain . And allowing for global power 35:59.714 --> 36:03.189 projection . The need is , is real . 36:03.439 --> 36:05.772 We've talked about a little bit already , 36:05.772 --> 36:07.883 but I'll , I'll go into some specific 36:07.883 --> 36:11.030 space-related examples . Uh , looking 36:11.030 --> 36:14.399 over the past second . The end of 2015 . 36:15.110 --> 36:18.370 The PRC's on-orbit presence has grown 36:18.370 --> 36:21.489 by 500 . This includes over 36:21.489 --> 36:25.409 470 intelligence surveillance and 36:25.409 --> 36:28.179 reconnaissance satellites . And that 36:28.179 --> 36:31.840 includes optical . Multi-spectral radar 36:31.840 --> 36:35.560 RF sensors , and this only increases 36:35.560 --> 36:38.750 their ability to detect and track our 36:38.750 --> 36:40.840 terrestrial forces , you know , from 36:40.840 --> 36:44.330 carrier strike groups to operators 36:44.330 --> 36:46.889 deployed around the theater , air wings , 36:46.959 --> 36:49.889 you name it . It's , it's really , um , 36:49.899 --> 36:51.732 as everybody should prepare Vice 36:51.732 --> 36:53.732 Marshall Nan brought up , they have 36:53.732 --> 36:57.419 moved into the . Pier category of of 36:57.419 --> 37:01.020 the threat . Just in the last Really 37:01.020 --> 37:03.580 put a point on this . China conducted 37:03.580 --> 37:07.219 68 total launches , of which 66 were 37:07.219 --> 37:10.540 successful . Those launches placed 37:10.540 --> 37:13.449 260 payloads in orbit , 37:13.889 --> 37:16.860 67 of them were ISR capable satellites . 37:17.590 --> 37:21.320 Yeah Yo The speed of 37:22.189 --> 37:26.060 China is advancing their space . We are 37:26.060 --> 37:28.820 not losing sight on that , and I think 37:28.820 --> 37:31.659 that's why I enjoy being here with US 37:31.659 --> 37:33.969 industry because at the end of the day 37:34.340 --> 37:38.100 there's no one more capable and able to 37:38.100 --> 37:40.780 bring forward the best capabilities in 37:40.780 --> 37:42.780 the world and the people who are in 37:42.780 --> 37:44.891 this room . I know from conversations 37:44.891 --> 37:47.840 I've had and we're , uh , you all are 37:47.840 --> 37:50.899 moving and how we want to partner with 37:50.899 --> 37:54.030 you . To bring those capabilities 37:54.030 --> 37:57.149 forward at a speed that is relevant to 37:57.149 --> 38:00.850 change the way we fight in the . Um , 38:02.689 --> 38:05.010 China's developing a space architecture 38:05.010 --> 38:07.489 that underpins satellites are great . I 38:07.489 --> 38:09.545 think , you know , as a , as a space 38:09.545 --> 38:11.767 guy , as a guardian , I think we always 38:11.767 --> 38:14.820 like to look up . Into the space domain , 38:15.469 --> 38:17.636 satellites are pretty , they're cool , 38:17.689 --> 38:19.459 technologically advanced . The 38:19.459 --> 38:22.610 architecture that underpins all of that 38:22.610 --> 38:25.699 and allows the data to flow in an 38:25.699 --> 38:28.439 efficient and timely manner to get the 38:28.439 --> 38:30.979 information to the tactical a war 38:30.979 --> 38:33.610 fighter is vital . I , I don't think 38:33.610 --> 38:36.129 that . Sometimes we focus on that 38:36.129 --> 38:38.770 enough . It's data transport , 38:39.260 --> 38:41.538 sense-making , information development , 38:41.538 --> 38:44.429 and information dissemination . So 38:46.350 --> 38:49.350 I think One of the things that as we 38:49.350 --> 38:51.969 look at the value of what US industry 38:51.969 --> 38:55.149 is bringing its US and allied 38:55.149 --> 38:57.750 capabilities together . I think where 38:57.750 --> 39:00.379 we see partnership that's really uh 39:00.830 --> 39:03.659 important to working together better . 39:04.280 --> 39:06.629 I know her Vice Marshall Newman is an 39:06.629 --> 39:08.573 Australian on the panel , but he's 39:08.573 --> 39:12.050 representing in his role there as . The 39:12.050 --> 39:15.070 deputy commander We also have 39:15.070 --> 39:18.370 Australians embedded with us . Do 39:18.370 --> 39:20.649 exercises and we are partnering with 39:20.649 --> 39:23.250 really uh one of our closest allies . 39:25.300 --> 39:28.070 We understand that . Having 39:28.070 --> 39:31.540 capabilities that are not US only , 39:31.750 --> 39:33.972 especially the , you know , the dreaded 39:33.972 --> 39:37.080 word no form , it , it's frustrating 39:37.639 --> 39:40.659 here because we know that in a fight , 39:41.030 --> 39:44.260 we do not fight in a no form 39:44.810 --> 39:48.189 way . We fight in a yes form way and we 39:48.189 --> 39:50.629 have to really embrace that . So as we 39:50.629 --> 39:53.469 develop new capabilities . I underpin 39:53.469 --> 39:55.636 this with every engagement that I have 39:55.739 --> 39:57.949 that has to be done in a way that we . 39:58.909 --> 40:02.169 Share Across the And that's what . 40:06.139 --> 40:09.270 Um serious in the space force and that 40:09.270 --> 40:12.780 Space Force in OPAC about working with 40:12.780 --> 40:15.500 industry . A couple of examples in the 40:15.500 --> 40:18.250 last quarter met with several dozen 40:18.250 --> 40:20.260 companies , and out of those 40:20.260 --> 40:22.939 engagements we've moved forward with 40:22.939 --> 40:25.860 about 25% of them to offer direct 40:25.860 --> 40:28.459 endorsements , whether that's uh direct 40:28.459 --> 40:31.969 to face to sivers , strap pies , ties , 40:32.260 --> 40:34.093 you name it , because where we . 40:34.260 --> 40:36.620 Promising technologies , whether it's 40:36.620 --> 40:39.580 endorsements through DIU , OSDR&E or 40:39.580 --> 40:42.429 other organizations . We want to ensure 40:42.429 --> 40:44.909 that there's a path to get the cutting 40:44.909 --> 40:47.389 edge novel ideas that , and 40:47.389 --> 40:49.350 capabilities that you all are 40:49.350 --> 40:51.517 developing and ensure that they are on 40:51.517 --> 40:54.709 a pathway to transition into a program 40:54.709 --> 40:58.709 of record or The right approaches for a 40:58.709 --> 41:00.870 specific thing that we can get those 41:00.870 --> 41:04.379 technologies out to us in inacom where 41:04.379 --> 41:07.659 they're going to make a difference , uh . 41:08.620 --> 41:11.560 I think it's extremely important that 41:11.850 --> 41:14.360 we sometimes and also an acquire . 41:15.679 --> 41:17.540 And you know , SpaceX's . 41:19.659 --> 41:22.810 quite a bit I think people have the 41:22.810 --> 41:25.129 right approach that we have to move as 41:25.129 --> 41:27.500 fast as possible using all of the 41:27.500 --> 41:29.929 options that the Federal acquisition 41:29.929 --> 41:33.729 regulation allows to move quickly and 41:33.729 --> 41:37.169 not be bogged down in slow , you know , 41:37.330 --> 41:39.929 decade-long developments . Um 41:41.689 --> 41:44.360 I think I Just a couple of things that 41:44.360 --> 41:46.949 I , I do realize we want to get to Q&A 41:46.949 --> 41:49.171 and Tony's sitting here thinking , hold 41:49.171 --> 41:51.560 on , let's talk about the importance of 41:51.560 --> 41:55.199 uh Guam defense , um , but I think the 41:55.199 --> 41:57.000 key to effective and efficient 41:57.000 --> 41:59.639 multi-domain welfare is the partnership 41:59.639 --> 42:02.120 between government programs and 42:02.120 --> 42:04.810 industry innovation . And it is us 42:04.810 --> 42:06.699 working together that is going to 42:06.699 --> 42:08.921 advance those capabilities and move the 42:08.921 --> 42:12.580 needle . Um that the next generation 42:13.219 --> 42:15.699 Deterrence and defeat if we move into . 42:16.669 --> 42:18.780 So with that , I'm looking forward to 42:18.780 --> 42:21.002 the questions when we get there , but I 42:21.002 --> 42:23.002 think Tony , it's over to you for . 42:23.560 --> 42:25.338 Thanks , Nick , appreciate it . 42:25.338 --> 42:27.449 Actually , what I was thinking is you 42:27.449 --> 42:27.149 and I are over here at the kids . 42:34.310 --> 42:36.649 So , uh yeah , good morning , uh , 42:36.899 --> 42:39.121 thanks for the invitation . I've , I've 42:39.121 --> 42:40.955 been on the stage a few times in 42:40.955 --> 42:42.955 various different capacities , uh , 42:42.955 --> 42:45.177 both army and joint , uh , and , uh , I 42:45.177 --> 42:47.699 speak to you today with the army patch 42:47.699 --> 42:49.979 on my shoulder , but actually from a 42:49.979 --> 42:53.330 joint , uh , perspective . Uh , so I 42:53.330 --> 42:55.552 served as the executive director of the 42:55.552 --> 42:57.608 Joint Program office uh for the Guam 42:57.608 --> 43:00.080 Defense System . You see RO up there , 43:00.439 --> 43:02.661 uh , and , and so let me explain really 43:02.661 --> 43:04.661 kind of the , the rationale and the 43:04.661 --> 43:07.120 difference there . So in , in June of 43:07.129 --> 43:09.073 23 , while I was telling the joint 43:09.073 --> 43:11.240 staff leading the Joint Integrated Air 43:11.240 --> 43:13.185 Missile Defense Organization , the 43:13.185 --> 43:15.370 DeputyEF uh tasked the Army as the 43:15.370 --> 43:17.850 service acquisition executive for the 43:17.850 --> 43:20.250 Guam Defense system , uh , pursuant . 43:21.020 --> 43:24.810 The GDS DAA 43:24.810 --> 43:27.820 23 as an AAT1 delta , you know , 43:27.860 --> 43:30.020 acquisition category , which is the 43:30.020 --> 43:32.860 highest possible category that has 43:32.860 --> 43:34.916 joint interests . So it's controlled 43:34.916 --> 43:37.082 from a requirements perspective by the 43:37.082 --> 43:40.060 Joint Requirements counsel , formerly 43:40.060 --> 43:42.393 the Joint Departments Oversight Council , 43:42.393 --> 43:45.850 as well as the defense 43:45.850 --> 43:49.820 acquisition executive who Who serves 43:49.820 --> 43:51.931 as our milestone decision authority . 43:52.219 --> 43:54.386 So I'm also sitting here uh talking to 43:54.386 --> 43:57.350 you from a program office perspective 43:57.350 --> 43:59.419 as an operator and an air defender . 43:59.459 --> 44:01.770 I'm not an acquisition officer . Uh , 44:02.020 --> 44:04.820 so the vision , uh , that , uh , that 44:04.820 --> 44:07.100 kind of came into place was as the army 44:07.100 --> 44:10.929 was designated as the SAE . Uh , then 44:10.929 --> 44:14.929 the , uh , uh , OSD , um , or , um . 44:15.790 --> 44:17.846 Uh , for acquisition and sustainment 44:17.846 --> 44:19.901 named Lieutenant General Rash , uh , 44:19.901 --> 44:21.957 who is the rito director in his Army 44:21.957 --> 44:23.957 role as the joint program executive 44:23.957 --> 44:26.179 officer for the Defense System , now in 44:26.179 --> 44:28.750 a joint role . Our office is embedded 44:28.750 --> 44:30.694 with , uh , with Rickto here uh in 44:30.694 --> 44:33.679 Huntsville , uh , and , um , 44:34.209 --> 44:36.689 the interesting and , uh , most , you 44:36.689 --> 44:38.850 know , challenging but yet exciting 44:38.850 --> 44:41.449 part of what we do is we don't own any 44:41.449 --> 44:44.260 of the systems . That are going on . 44:45.219 --> 44:48.979 Uh , and , um , uh , 22 separate 44:48.979 --> 44:51.179 platforms from across the services and 44:51.179 --> 44:54.090 agencies to support the requirements of 44:54.090 --> 44:58.000 the Indoigcom company . Uh , to solve a 44:58.000 --> 45:01.100 pretty hefty problem , uh , for what is 45:01.100 --> 45:03.310 probably one of the most strategic 45:03.310 --> 45:06.550 locations in the Pacific . Uh , and , 45:07.129 --> 45:09.018 uh , a place that could be easily 45:09.018 --> 45:11.800 isolated , uh , and cut off , uh , uh , 45:11.810 --> 45:15.010 during a fight . So from a 45:15.010 --> 45:18.449 JPEO perspective , uh the JPO , the 45:18.449 --> 45:20.616 Joint Program Office , was established 45:20.616 --> 45:23.370 in February 24 , so not , not very long 45:23.370 --> 45:25.689 ago . Certainly after most of these 45:25.689 --> 45:27.810 programs were either in place , have 45:27.810 --> 45:30.919 already been . continuing to be in 45:30.919 --> 45:32.919 development but yet have a fielding 45:32.919 --> 45:36.370 plan for their various services . We 45:36.370 --> 45:38.426 don't have the title and authority , 45:38.426 --> 45:40.959 but we do have uh configuration control 45:40.959 --> 45:43.689 authority as the JPEO , General Rash is 45:43.689 --> 45:45.911 the configuration control authority for 45:45.911 --> 45:48.129 the Guam defense system . Why is he 45:48.129 --> 45:50.185 that configuration control authority 45:50.185 --> 45:51.796 and not someone else from an 45:51.796 --> 45:54.018 operational perspective ? I think for a 45:54.018 --> 45:56.240 couple of reasons . Number one , the uh 45:56.240 --> 45:58.185 the systems . Systems are still in 45:58.185 --> 46:00.240 development . The , the prototypes , 46:00.240 --> 46:02.351 for example , that uh that uh General 46:02.351 --> 46:04.462 Parker talked about , uh , we're just 46:04.462 --> 46:06.462 now starting to put on the ground , 46:06.462 --> 46:08.407 we're starting to learn about what 46:08.407 --> 46:10.407 their capabilities truly are , um , 46:10.407 --> 46:12.573 because if , uh , if you've dealt with 46:12.573 --> 46:14.629 the systems at , at any point , um . 46:14.629 --> 46:16.851 You know that we can model them as much 46:16.851 --> 46:18.851 as we can model them , but we don't 46:18.851 --> 46:21.018 really actually know how they react to 46:21.018 --> 46:22.962 environments and various different 46:22.962 --> 46:25.073 sensors uh environments and frequency 46:25.073 --> 46:27.185 environments , uh , and environmental 46:27.185 --> 46:29.240 environments until we get them all . 46:29.240 --> 46:31.610 better . Uh , we are working to 46:31.610 --> 46:33.530 synchronize and really our chief 46:33.530 --> 46:35.610 priority in , in mandate is to 46:35.610 --> 46:38.350 synchronize across all of these 46:38.350 --> 46:40.406 programs . So think of an integrated 46:40.406 --> 46:42.628 master schedule from an perspective for 46:42.628 --> 46:44.530 a single program and then from a 46:44.530 --> 46:46.197 service perspective trying to 46:46.197 --> 46:48.252 synchronize all those together . And 46:48.252 --> 46:50.141 then trying to stitch all of that 46:50.141 --> 46:51.919 together from across all of the 46:51.919 --> 46:54.141 services as well as the missile defense 46:54.141 --> 46:57.030 agency from a from a doctrine 46:57.030 --> 46:59.239 organization training material , 46:59.409 --> 47:01.687 leadership and development , personnel , 47:01.687 --> 47:04.590 facilities and policies or joint PSD 47:04.590 --> 47:07.919 uh requirements perspective . Um , a 47:07.919 --> 47:10.159 capability does not exist just by 47:10.159 --> 47:12.840 creating the actual platform . The 47:12.840 --> 47:15.510 capability exists when it's employable 47:15.510 --> 47:18.500 on the ground . And , uh , and , and 47:18.500 --> 47:21.449 synchronizing all of the joint.no PFP 47:21.449 --> 47:23.560 across all of the services when there 47:23.560 --> 47:25.671 is no joint entity that actually does 47:25.671 --> 47:27.449 that on a regular basis , it's 47:27.449 --> 47:29.505 something that we've had to actually 47:29.505 --> 47:31.005 take on . So we serve as a 47:31.005 --> 47:33.340 synchronizing authority across , across 47:33.340 --> 47:35.229 all of those platforms . We don't 47:35.229 --> 47:37.118 decide the requirements for those 47:37.118 --> 47:39.173 platforms that stays on the Title 10 47:39.173 --> 47:42.379 side . We , we help synchronize and 47:42.379 --> 47:45.020 integrate those platforms , uh , once 47:45.020 --> 47:47.739 they're ready . Uh , what we , what we 47:47.739 --> 47:51.489 do , uh , do is , um . We 47:51.489 --> 47:53.530 have two , we have kind of a hybrid 47:53.530 --> 47:56.169 acquisition approach from , from the 47:56.169 --> 47:58.280 aspect of what needs to go to the mom 47:58.280 --> 48:00.391 and when it needs to be there and how 48:00.391 --> 48:02.447 we're synchronizing all of that domi 48:02.447 --> 48:05.989 PFP , uh . MTA rapid 48:05.989 --> 48:09.860 building pathway that allows us to 48:09.860 --> 48:11.804 ensure that we can synchronize the 48:11.804 --> 48:14.060 capabilities of those systems as they 48:14.060 --> 48:17.270 are available . An example would be as 48:17.270 --> 48:19.590 the system is being developed , maybe 48:19.590 --> 48:21.739 it's not meeting its full capability 48:21.739 --> 48:22.795 requirements yet . 48:26.189 --> 48:28.360 Or to meet , uh , meet requirements in 48:28.360 --> 48:30.780 Guam operationally . And so we have to 48:30.780 --> 48:32.891 understand what those limitations and 48:32.891 --> 48:34.947 those constraints are so we can plan 48:34.947 --> 48:37.113 through those and we can build and you 48:37.113 --> 48:39.169 can refine . Uh , so that's , that's 48:39.169 --> 48:41.620 one aspect . The , the second part of 48:41.620 --> 48:44.370 our , our hybrid acquisition approach 48:44.370 --> 48:47.010 is a software pathway . Using a 48:47.010 --> 48:48.850 software pathway because we're 48:48.850 --> 48:51.370 responsible for developing the 48:51.370 --> 48:53.570 capability that does not exist today 48:53.570 --> 48:56.770 that everyone on my right has already 48:56.770 --> 48:58.826 spoken about which is the ability to 48:58.826 --> 49:01.149 integrate these systems . There is no 49:01.149 --> 49:04.290 capability to integrate joint tactical 49:04.290 --> 49:07.639 fire . the fire control level . All of 49:07.639 --> 49:10.570 these systems built as they were being 49:10.570 --> 49:12.729 built as they are now , which is more 49:12.729 --> 49:16.169 open architecture , um , still really 49:16.169 --> 49:18.570 are service-centric . They're , they're 49:18.570 --> 49:21.040 intended to meet service requirements , 49:21.169 --> 49:23.169 which is exactly what they're being 49:23.169 --> 49:26.270 built for . Um , but as we Uh , 49:26.370 --> 49:28.649 recently , and really as I've known in 49:28.649 --> 49:31.370 my 30 years of air defense , we cannot 49:31.370 --> 49:34.060 fight . Uh , we especially can't fight 49:34.060 --> 49:37.120 that way in a gum , uh , in a gum fight . 49:38.639 --> 49:42.280 And if you will And each one of 49:42.280 --> 49:44.800 us represents a different C2 fire 49:44.800 --> 49:47.022 control system , whether it's the Aegis 49:47.022 --> 49:49.229 Guam system , it's the terminal high 49:49.229 --> 49:52.030 altitude area defense or tag system , 49:52.209 --> 49:55.459 it's IDCS . capability of 49:55.459 --> 49:59.459 sensors and a network of vectors um 49:59.750 --> 50:02.590 or uh it's uh uh NBA . 50:04.290 --> 50:06.623 Uh , or it's the Air Force's top flight . 50:06.649 --> 50:08.810 Those are the , the main 5 C2 systems 50:08.810 --> 50:10.810 that , that we're really focused on 50:10.810 --> 50:12.959 right now . But imagine . Those 50:12.959 --> 50:15.181 operators for each one of those systems 50:15.399 --> 50:18.520 and we're in an experiment or an 50:18.520 --> 50:21.360 exercise where they're throwing a PRC 50:21.360 --> 50:25.239 DPRK North Korean threat at us as if 50:25.239 --> 50:27.459 we're fighting out of Guam and we're 50:27.459 --> 50:29.479 able to talk to each other as we're 50:29.479 --> 50:32.479 seeing what we can see on our war 50:32.479 --> 50:35.000 fighter machine interfaces , our 50:35.000 --> 50:38.340 screens with our system . Uh , we've 50:38.340 --> 50:40.562 done that with operators and as they do 50:40.562 --> 50:42.507 that , and they're very skilled we 50:42.507 --> 50:44.618 bring the most skilled operators to , 50:44.618 --> 50:47.169 to , to really see where our gaps are 50:47.459 --> 50:49.459 and as we experiment with this , no 50:49.459 --> 50:51.626 matter how close they are and how much 50:51.626 --> 50:53.626 they can talk to each other in that 50:53.626 --> 50:55.681 fight , they cannot deconflict fires 50:55.681 --> 50:58.330 back . The reasons why they can't be 50:58.330 --> 51:00.219 fully fire fast enough is because 51:00.219 --> 51:02.274 number one , they can't see what the 51:02.274 --> 51:04.429 other ones . So they end up firing at 51:04.429 --> 51:06.709 the same things . So we talked a little 51:06.709 --> 51:08.510 bit about , uh , about kinetic 51:08.510 --> 51:10.843 interceptor wastage . Uh , that's a cut . 51:11.300 --> 51:13.300 Concern for us in a place like Guam 51:13.560 --> 51:15.790 where we're really not gonna be able to 51:15.790 --> 51:19.389 react to resupplying the . Or you can 51:19.389 --> 51:22.030 do that in other places in the loo . Uh , 51:22.060 --> 51:25.600 the other main issue is that By doing 51:25.600 --> 51:27.489 that , it's also possible to miss 51:27.489 --> 51:30.159 targets . So I'll , I'll use , uh , in 51:30.159 --> 51:32.639 some cases , I'll use some real world 51:32.639 --> 51:35.729 events , uh , where , uh , we've had 51:35.959 --> 51:39.110 multinational . Services specific air 51:39.110 --> 51:41.332 missile defense systems all fire at the 51:41.332 --> 51:43.520 same threat all at one time . We can't 51:43.520 --> 51:45.576 procure fast enough and rebuild that 51:45.576 --> 51:48.199 capacity fast enough to be able to 51:48.199 --> 51:51.090 maintain that kind of fighting . And so 51:51.090 --> 51:52.979 we're really trying to solve that 51:52.979 --> 51:54.923 problem . We started with building 51:54.923 --> 51:56.979 joint requirements , uh , from the , 51:56.979 --> 51:58.812 from the joint staff that really 51:58.812 --> 52:00.646 involves joint planning for IAMD 52:00.646 --> 52:03.600 systems that was approved in 2017 . We 52:03.600 --> 52:05.879 also approved the joint requirement for 52:05.879 --> 52:08.080 Joint Capital Integrated Fi Control in 52:08.080 --> 52:11.879 2021 . Also , in 2021 , we approved a 52:11.879 --> 52:14.550 joint um engagement coordination , uh , 52:14.560 --> 52:18.439 ICD that really leverages the system's 52:18.439 --> 52:20.606 capabilities at the fire control level 52:21.159 --> 52:23.909 across all the services to understand 52:24.120 --> 52:26.439 and share measurement data across each 52:26.439 --> 52:28.760 of those , those service platforms . So 52:28.760 --> 52:30.871 General Parker talked about . of what 52:30.871 --> 52:32.871 we've experimented with the project 52:32.871 --> 52:34.871 convergence and other exercises and 52:34.871 --> 52:37.093 experiments , and what we have found is 52:37.093 --> 52:39.316 when we do that , those systems now can 52:39.316 --> 52:41.371 pass data back and forth using their 52:41.371 --> 52:43.371 own language . All we have to do is 52:43.371 --> 52:45.538 translate translate that language from 52:45.538 --> 52:47.629 one system to another , but what we 52:47.629 --> 52:51.510 need is we . Capability above those to 52:51.510 --> 52:54.989 serve as kind of a um a risk 52:54.989 --> 52:58.149 management function in terms of helping 52:58.149 --> 53:01.370 to direct joint engagement . We have a 53:01.370 --> 53:04.399 lot of history in terms of Firing 53:04.399 --> 53:06.343 upwards from service to service to 53:06.343 --> 53:08.288 service , and it's pretty , pretty 53:08.288 --> 53:10.860 parochial . It's very cultural , uh , 53:10.870 --> 53:14.780 and it's outdated . Uh And what we 53:15.739 --> 53:18.520 I understand that battle space better 53:18.770 --> 53:21.689 so that we can conserve very , very 53:21.689 --> 53:23.245 expensive and very valuable 53:23.245 --> 53:26.939 interceptors for the right fight . We 53:26.939 --> 53:29.699 have an SM3 or an SM 6 in the 53:29.699 --> 53:32.949 architecture or we have a Patri MSC or 53:32.949 --> 53:35.580 we have a BIA in the architecture , and 53:35.580 --> 53:37.747 they all have different capabilities . 53:37.747 --> 53:40.110 Most of those capabilities overlap . 53:40.860 --> 53:43.770 Maybe we have a bad talent capabilities 53:44.060 --> 53:47.010 and And when we have all those and we 53:47.010 --> 53:49.232 put them together on such a small space 53:49.409 --> 53:51.530 to do a very important mission , we 53:51.530 --> 53:53.141 want to make sure that we're 53:53.141 --> 53:55.308 integrating them into the fashion that 53:55.308 --> 53:58.719 we can fire maybe a single one of one 53:58.810 --> 54:00.929 and follow that with a single one of 54:00.929 --> 54:03.250 another across the surface . Uh , we 54:03.250 --> 54:05.417 don't have a capability that does that 54:05.417 --> 54:08.000 right now . Um , except over the phone . 54:08.760 --> 54:10.816 That's how we do that today . That's 54:10.816 --> 54:13.149 how we've been doing it for a long time . 54:13.149 --> 54:15.204 Uh , the , uh , the Joint Engagement 54:15.204 --> 54:16.927 Coordination ICD also directed 54:16.927 --> 54:19.530 automated Batman . And uh the 54:19.530 --> 54:21.729 automation part of this is extremely 54:21.729 --> 54:23.951 important because what I'm most worried 54:23.951 --> 54:25.896 about in a fight like this is task 54:25.896 --> 54:28.889 saturation for our operators is having 54:28.889 --> 54:30.722 all of this information now that 54:30.722 --> 54:32.778 they're potentially going to provide 54:32.778 --> 54:35.000 them and then having to work out really 54:35.000 --> 54:37.167 what that risk is and try to make very 54:37.167 --> 54:39.278 critical decisions and be overwhelmed 54:39.278 --> 54:41.500 and not be able to make those decisions 54:41.500 --> 54:43.389 fast enough . So we're developing 54:43.389 --> 54:45.278 what's what's called the joint uh 54:45.278 --> 54:47.679 integrated Bat Manager or GIL . Uh , 54:47.760 --> 54:49.816 that's our software pathway , that's 54:49.816 --> 54:52.149 our product that our team is working on . 54:52.149 --> 54:54.260 We have a team of system and software 54:54.260 --> 54:56.204 engineers working with industry to 54:56.204 --> 54:58.204 develop that right now . We hope to 54:58.204 --> 55:00.316 have a prototype of that capability , 55:00.316 --> 55:02.639 uh , for demonstration by ValueShield 55:02.639 --> 55:05.860 in June of 26th . Uh , I also hope to 55:05.860 --> 55:07.804 have a prototype of a joint of the 55:07.804 --> 55:10.570 first ever joint IAD planner , uh , 55:10.580 --> 55:12.780 that takes the real models of these 55:12.780 --> 55:15.002 capabilities and puts them together and 55:15.002 --> 55:16.891 allows planners to understand how 55:16.891 --> 55:18.836 they'll interact with each other . 55:18.836 --> 55:21.002 Everything from , yes , where you need 55:21.002 --> 55:23.224 to put a sensor , where you need to put 55:23.224 --> 55:26.379 uh um um uh an a factor , um , how do 55:26.379 --> 55:29.340 you implement and leverage non-kinetic 55:29.340 --> 55:32.649 capability , but also how do you 55:33.870 --> 55:37.639 Work in an environment that . Congested 55:37.639 --> 55:39.972 from a frequency management perspective , 55:39.972 --> 55:42.270 how do these sensors interact together 55:42.270 --> 55:45.870 and how do we . Uh , so the gym or the 55:45.870 --> 55:48.070 Joint Integrator Bat Manager will help 55:48.070 --> 55:50.126 an operator determine what the right 55:50.126 --> 55:52.389 course of action is across multiple 55:52.389 --> 55:55.500 platforms and , and multiple . The way 55:55.500 --> 55:57.699 I like to think of C2 is very much the 55:57.699 --> 56:01.340 way we think of , of effect . sensor . 56:01.500 --> 56:03.722 We always talk about layered integrated 56:03.722 --> 56:05.944 air missile defense from the vector and 56:05.944 --> 56:08.000 a sensor perspective . How far can a 56:08.000 --> 56:10.056 sensor see ? How deep can it sense ? 56:10.056 --> 56:12.929 How far does that allow a kinetic 56:14.100 --> 56:17.600 capability to affect a threat ? What 56:17.600 --> 56:20.570 can we do with not ? We have to start 56:20.570 --> 56:22.810 thinking about the same layered and 56:22.810 --> 56:26.209 integrated . Much more C2 layers in 56:26.209 --> 56:29.370 terms of how we're doing . Uh , and so 56:29.370 --> 56:31.481 this is from , from my perspective as 56:31.481 --> 56:33.426 we , we talk about this ji , we're 56:33.426 --> 56:35.426 really talking about a limited area 56:35.426 --> 56:37.426 defense kind of tactical integrated 56:37.426 --> 56:39.592 product control capability , but we're 56:39.592 --> 56:41.814 not just talking about ground-based air 56:41.814 --> 56:41.500 missile defense , we're talking about 56:41.729 --> 56:44.409 all domainer missile defense and , and 56:44.409 --> 56:47.050 how we fight collectively . Uh , so we 56:47.050 --> 56:48.828 had many conversations with the 56:48.828 --> 56:50.994 commander of Indo-Pecom as well as the 56:50.994 --> 56:53.979 commander of PACAP and And all of the 56:53.979 --> 56:56.290 leaders across in in terms of what they 56:56.290 --> 56:58.709 really want them to see from them . So 56:58.709 --> 57:00.989 from , from , uh , from Huntsville , 57:01.030 --> 57:04.590 Alabama , the JPO is trying to , to do 57:04.590 --> 57:08.070 this synchronization across a joint and 57:08.070 --> 57:10.014 interagency full of government and 57:10.014 --> 57:12.149 enterprise . Next week will be the 57:12.149 --> 57:14.830 second joint summit in uh Hawaii , so I 57:14.830 --> 57:17.620 can join you over there , uh , and , um . 57:18.689 --> 57:21.639 Uh , we , we have over 250 stakeholders 57:21.969 --> 57:24.050 that are , that are either providing 57:24.050 --> 57:26.383 capability or operating that capability . 57:26.959 --> 57:29.015 We have to make doctoral decisions . 57:29.419 --> 57:31.530 Things that we haven't done before in 57:31.530 --> 57:33.697 terms of how we're fighting and how we 57:33.697 --> 57:35.850 need to fight . Um , we have to 57:35.850 --> 57:38.229 understand the isolation . Occur in 57:38.229 --> 57:40.340 Guam and what that effect is going to 57:40.340 --> 57:43.959 be on an IAD system , we have to 57:43.959 --> 57:46.070 continue to experiment in that battle 57:46.070 --> 57:48.237 space , which is what we're going . We 57:48.237 --> 57:49.989 have to take NDA's joint track 57:49.989 --> 57:51.822 management capability and really 57:51.822 --> 57:53.878 leverage the capability that they're 57:53.878 --> 57:56.045 providing us so that we can understand 57:56.189 --> 57:58.467 how these systems can operate together . 57:59.560 --> 58:01.899 You to help us understand the maturity 58:01.899 --> 58:04.500 of technology . Uh , one of the things 58:04.500 --> 58:07.419 that we're trying not to do is rigidize 58:07.419 --> 58:10.179 the requirements process that lays out 58:10.179 --> 58:12.346 exactly what we think we need and then 58:12.346 --> 58:14.100 asks you to build against that 58:14.100 --> 58:17.620 requirement as Continue to develop and 58:17.620 --> 58:20.419 leverage technology , um , we want to 58:20.419 --> 58:22.586 be able to leverage that technology as 58:22.586 --> 58:24.820 well and so we're really looking at 58:24.820 --> 58:26.931 this from a different perspective and 58:26.931 --> 58:29.153 that's how we're , we're using the rito 58:29.153 --> 58:31.320 culture from a prototyping perspective 58:31.320 --> 58:33.542 that allows us to do that , uh , and so 58:33.542 --> 58:35.598 we're learning from . I've learned a 58:35.598 --> 58:37.764 lot in the last couple of days as well 58:37.764 --> 58:39.709 as all of my engagements that I've 58:39.709 --> 58:41.764 continued with our industry partners 58:41.764 --> 58:41.560 which is I think that's the most 58:41.560 --> 58:43.729 important part . But things like the 58:43.729 --> 58:46.090 integration of THAAD and IDCS within 58:46.090 --> 58:48.889 the army are going to allow us to use 58:48.889 --> 58:51.560 that sensor , the TPP , for example , 58:51.750 --> 58:54.850 as a joint sensor now for fire control , 58:54.969 --> 58:57.136 not just for a single weapons system , 58:57.136 --> 58:59.247 and we're doing that across the board 58:59.247 --> 59:01.469 across these 22 platforms . But the one 59:01.469 --> 59:03.899 thing we can't forget is when we do all 59:03.899 --> 59:06.580 of this . Capabilities that have 59:06.580 --> 59:09.419 enormous opportunity for how we fight 59:09.419 --> 59:11.500 the future , we have to address the 59:11.500 --> 59:14.379 doctrine and cultural ways that we're 59:14.379 --> 59:16.657 thinking . We have to think about this . 59:17.280 --> 59:20.510 We have to Employ in a flexible manner , 59:20.760 --> 59:22.840 uh , and we have to ensure that as 59:22.840 --> 59:25.850 we're supporting , uh , any . Uh , 59:25.860 --> 59:27.810 combat commander that what we're 59:27.810 --> 59:30.209 developing with , uh , within this 59:30.209 --> 59:32.250 particular location is terrain 59:32.250 --> 59:35.199 agnostics . What we're taking to Guam , 59:35.570 --> 59:38.370 hopefully , uh , by , uh , uh , by the 59:38.370 --> 59:40.259 time that we start developing the 59:40.259 --> 59:42.570 prototype . is exportable anywhere . 59:43.909 --> 59:46.409 Once we do it and we can actually be 59:46.409 --> 59:48.298 successful doing it , this can be 59:48.298 --> 59:50.409 available to any world fighter on the 59:50.409 --> 59:52.687 globe . So thank you , appreciate that . 59:52.687 --> 59:55.070 It takes In the , yeah . 01:00:00.350 --> 01:00:02.572 This panel would have been excellent in 01:00:02.572 --> 01:00:04.572 testimony because they filibustered 01:00:04.572 --> 01:00:04.310 their way right out of . 01:00:08.860 --> 01:00:11.082 No , but in an interesting time , I , I 01:00:11.082 --> 01:00:13.379 do , uh , we want to stay respective to 01:00:13.379 --> 01:00:15.601 everything that's going to go on here , 01:00:15.601 --> 01:00:17.490 but I want to thank all the panel 01:00:17.490 --> 01:00:19.546 members . Please afford yourself the 01:00:19.546 --> 01:00:21.435 opportunity to , to ask questions 01:00:21.435 --> 01:00:23.601 within the the panel and catch up with 01:00:23.601 --> 01:00:25.546 them . Um , I , I , General Promio 01:00:25.546 --> 01:00:27.823 probably is mad at me because I didn't , 01:00:27.823 --> 01:00:26.899 you know , give them the shepherd's 01:00:26.899 --> 01:00:28.955 hook earlier and keep them on time , 01:00:28.955 --> 01:00:31.066 but they had so much good information 01:00:31.066 --> 01:00:33.177 provided . I wanted to make sure that 01:00:33.177 --> 01:00:33.129 that they had that opportunity to do so . 01:00:33.370 --> 01:00:35.537 So we could one more round of applause 01:00:35.537 --> 01:00:35.459 for our panel .